@GaleZMe No tool is bad just because people use it in wrong way. Tarot provide you with guidance or advice, not instructions, what you have to do. You can’t hate compass, because it says to user which way he/she should go.
@Zaku1234567 Yes, you’re right. This is why I hate this conveyor belt, one-size-fits-all mysticism like the Tarot. It is what people allow to make their decisions for them. I’ll say one thing about your ancestors, and that is that they had the sense to individually pursue their spirituality. Each person had to explore his/her inner world on their own, not according to a lot of dogma and pre-packed “get answers here” systems like the Tarot.
@GaleZMe Mankind are innovators by nature. We create tools to make things easier and produce more, but when we rely on people to make decisions for us, we become helpless. There is both benefits and costs for innovation, but change for us is a slow process, especially when our generation is generation of impatience.
@Zaku1234567 People seek certainty, unfortunately there isn’t any….which can make “life” quite interesting, but only if people realize that as individuals they are the sole power in their own existences. If, on the other hand, they rely on outside authority to provide answers and conditions of certainty and stability, they’re screwed royally….which is something generation after generation never seem to learn as they flock to various forms of priest craft the swindlers are always offering.
@Zaku1234567 I guess that its possible to find commonality with everything sooner or later. Like Astrology charts and signs which contain enough generalities that they can apply to anyone and everyone some time or other.
“After life” implies a fragmented condition of stopping and starting. Even as primitive as particle and quantum physics are today, they still recognize that there is no “beginning” or “ending” to anything, only shifting around into different orders and configurations.
@GaleZMe I’m only referring that you and humanists have a few similarities, not that you are one. I’m also saying that people who believe in afterlife may be in denial with the fact they will die and cease to exist and may use this to rid of their fear instead of acceptance. I have watched the videos, his video proved to be interesting as if focuses on both present, future, and acceptance. Involvement that everything corresponds to each other as though humanity together is a one person
@Zaku1234567 No, I don’t have any use at all for psychology or psychiatry whatsoever, and I’m not a humanist at all either. Go watch that video I recommended and then come back and comment. And there is no “after life” ( which is an absurd term ! ) there is only infinite, unending “life” in which we shift in and out of various states of consciousness which in turn cause us to perceive and experience in certain ways and by certain means.
@GaleZMe Many are religious because society can be mentally frail and fears the future. For them, religion can be a refuge and comfort for them for their lives and what they believe an afterlife. I trust no one religion fully because of the varieties that exist. Searching a lifetime for a needle in a haystack leave us in place and restrains our progression, but their morales can create great people to set examples to follow. My sentence may be hard to read because I am tired at the moment
@GaleZMe You sound close to a humanist, psychologists who believe that humanity shapes their own destiny and future. I’ve always thought that fate has something set for our potential, but fate offers little favors and will make us work to our full potential. Doing nothing may turn us into an undesirable image. I understand what you are saying with humanity being close to impossible to reach a consensus with each other for a better life…
not through relying on outside authorities ( leaders, priests, mystic/occult concepts or tools ) to provide the answers. All valid answers come from within the SELF, and this is why priest craft and promoters / profiteers of mysticism ALWAYS want you to BELIEVE in everything and anything except YOURSELF. The hacks make their living by making the individual powerless and dependent on outside authority.
If we as individuals could realize our own power, we could easily correct the world.
then you’ll have something that CAN ACCURATELY REFLECT YOUR INNER PROCESSES AND UNCONSCIOUS LINKS TO REALITY. But pat systems like Tarot or Astrology or any other packaged mysticism is just junk and impotent sucker bait.
And remember, humans can always do better no matter the race. No one should accept the status quo. Growth should be the ultimate goal. Today’s world sucks and can be made a lot better, but only through belief in SELF as a definite power to make changes, not through
Here’s something that will explain MY VIEW very well – go to “LOVE OF TRUTH” here on You Tube ( a lecture by the venerable Manly P. Hall ) and watch it entirely. What he says is what I personally BELIEVE.
Now, if you obtain a BLANK Deck of Tarot Cards and draw images on them that mean something TO YOU PERSONALLY ( don’t worry about following the Tarot concept of wands, swords, cups, disks, trumps ). Just illustrate images of concepts YOU have. Then use that deck for self-relection –
Regarding the shifting around of the tribes on the continent: The Pawnee and Pawnee Loupes oldest memory places them somewhere in central Mexico, yet when Europeans encountered them, they were in what is now Nebraska. The Comanches came from southern Mexico and were of Aztec stock. Apaches and Kiowa came from northwestern Canada, but were encountered by Europeans much farther south. The Crow came from some tropical jungle but were found in Montana ! No tribe had a stable “homeland”.
They had to stay in one locale because there’s only so much you can transport on the backs of a couple of large dogs. Wars, population growth, territorial expansion in an imperialistic sense, etc., all took place after acquiring the horse, metal implements and advanced weapons, and other technological advances due to interaction with Europeans. “In Crowd” thinking ( us against them ) applied to every tribe in its view of any person not of the tribe regardless of color of skin and race.
@Zaku1234567 Sorry, I don’t follow this comment – can’t pick up what you mean as far as your example of “Native killings” goes. However, I do know from extensive research that natives didn’t really consider any particular area of the continent as their possession. They fought each other over the best hunting spots and shifted around the continent according to their fortunes in war – AFTER acquiring the horse, that is. Before that, they had no choice but to remain more or less stationary.
@GaleZMe The thread came after the tarot reading discussion, especially when youtube threads don’t track chronically very well. It was only after I said I take my native history seriously where we both actually brought it up. As for the Native killings, I’m making a quick example of how both sides have killed which Natives have done for that reason before, not a lot but have done before. Fighting is conflict, we have conflict and I have no desire for conflict.
@GaleZMe Why don’t you read the tribal histories of the Comanche and the Sioux; both of which were tribes that routinely slaughtered other Indians before and after the arrival of Europeans. The Comanche also ran a lucrative slave trade, selling captive Indians of other tribes to Whites from Spain. Torture, brutality, rape, etc. against other Indians was common, and when Whites showed up, the Comanches simply included them on their list of potential victims to target.
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@Zaku1234567 I’m not “Fighting”, I’m “exposing”. Also, read the thread of our exchange and you’ll see the reference to Blood Sacrifice and Rain Gods came AFTER you started up with your defence of “the ancient”.
PS: No Indian every killed a White person just because they were White. You’ve been watching too many movies and reading Dee Brown too much! Indians killed people who weren’t of their TRIBAL GROUP, regardless of race – all considered FAIR GAME in terms of Stone Age value systems.
@Zaku1234567 Aren’t you going to equate the pacification of the American frontier with the “Holocaust”, or at least admit that there’s been “Holocausts” throughout history everywhere, not just during WWII in Germany?
Broken treaties? The Indians routinely broke every treaty they agreed to – primarily because they had no idea of ethics or being bound by your word today if you gave it to someone else last week. In other words, Stone Age reasoning didn’t mesh with 19th Century European ethics.
@GaleZMe To be honest, there are actually three. Comprehending and responding on the situation now instead of in the future or whether how it begun in the past. Simple negotiations are long and boring while fighting are dangerous and tiring. Right now, us fighting makes me quite tired and I have no desire to continue this argument because we are just spinning our wheels right now. I’d be more than happy to end this right now.
@GaleZMe There are many mistakes in this world of which we must be reminded of. Whether it’s through the Holocaust or through early Americans breaking the treaties with Natives on different accounts or the Natives killing many innocent citizens because they merely were white. What you call me has no direct impact me and will only impact you of what I call you if you let it. Perhaps you were the one to bring it up when you brought up rain gods and sacrifice. I simply retaliated to your response.
@Zaku1234567 “Remembering the past is important because it allows avoidance of previous mistakes”? What mistakes? Has the American Indian learned to avoid the “mistake” of tribe vs tribe genocide……..while lamenting about losing a Stone Age culture that contained genocide against other tribes as a keystone?
I’m not insulting you either. I am pointing out the way you look at things based on your own comments. This video is about TAROT, and you brought up Indian culture being “destroyed”.
@Zaku1234567 Look, there are two ways of approaching life these days. One is to do it by looking backward as if there’s something in the past that was really to be missed. The other is to look forward and to put the past in a museum where ti belongs. That’s it. This has nothing to do with needing to win. You called me a child, an idiot, and you directly accused the race I belong to of doing certain things. Well, I’m calling you on all of it. Don’t blame me because you brought it all up.
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@GaleZMe No tool is bad just because people use it in wrong way. Tarot provide you with guidance or advice, not instructions, what you have to do. You can’t hate compass, because it says to user which way he/she should go.
@Zaku1234567 Yes, you’re right. This is why I hate this conveyor belt, one-size-fits-all mysticism like the Tarot. It is what people allow to make their decisions for them. I’ll say one thing about your ancestors, and that is that they had the sense to individually pursue their spirituality. Each person had to explore his/her inner world on their own, not according to a lot of dogma and pre-packed “get answers here” systems like the Tarot.
@GaleZMe Mankind are innovators by nature. We create tools to make things easier and produce more, but when we rely on people to make decisions for us, we become helpless. There is both benefits and costs for innovation, but change for us is a slow process, especially when our generation is generation of impatience.
@Zaku1234567 People seek certainty, unfortunately there isn’t any….which can make “life” quite interesting, but only if people realize that as individuals they are the sole power in their own existences. If, on the other hand, they rely on outside authority to provide answers and conditions of certainty and stability, they’re screwed royally….which is something generation after generation never seem to learn as they flock to various forms of priest craft the swindlers are always offering.
@Zaku1234567 I guess that its possible to find commonality with everything sooner or later. Like Astrology charts and signs which contain enough generalities that they can apply to anyone and everyone some time or other.
“After life” implies a fragmented condition of stopping and starting. Even as primitive as particle and quantum physics are today, they still recognize that there is no “beginning” or “ending” to anything, only shifting around into different orders and configurations.
@GaleZMe I’m only referring that you and humanists have a few similarities, not that you are one. I’m also saying that people who believe in afterlife may be in denial with the fact they will die and cease to exist and may use this to rid of their fear instead of acceptance. I have watched the videos, his video proved to be interesting as if focuses on both present, future, and acceptance. Involvement that everything corresponds to each other as though humanity together is a one person
@Zaku1234567 No, I don’t have any use at all for psychology or psychiatry whatsoever, and I’m not a humanist at all either. Go watch that video I recommended and then come back and comment. And there is no “after life” ( which is an absurd term ! ) there is only infinite, unending “life” in which we shift in and out of various states of consciousness which in turn cause us to perceive and experience in certain ways and by certain means.
@GaleZMe Many are religious because society can be mentally frail and fears the future. For them, religion can be a refuge and comfort for them for their lives and what they believe an afterlife. I trust no one religion fully because of the varieties that exist. Searching a lifetime for a needle in a haystack leave us in place and restrains our progression, but their morales can create great people to set examples to follow. My sentence may be hard to read because I am tired at the moment
@GaleZMe You sound close to a humanist, psychologists who believe that humanity shapes their own destiny and future. I’ve always thought that fate has something set for our potential, but fate offers little favors and will make us work to our full potential. Doing nothing may turn us into an undesirable image. I understand what you are saying with humanity being close to impossible to reach a consensus with each other for a better life…
not through relying on outside authorities ( leaders, priests, mystic/occult concepts or tools ) to provide the answers. All valid answers come from within the SELF, and this is why priest craft and promoters / profiteers of mysticism ALWAYS want you to BELIEVE in everything and anything except YOURSELF. The hacks make their living by making the individual powerless and dependent on outside authority.
If we as individuals could realize our own power, we could easily correct the world.
then you’ll have something that CAN ACCURATELY REFLECT YOUR INNER PROCESSES AND UNCONSCIOUS LINKS TO REALITY. But pat systems like Tarot or Astrology or any other packaged mysticism is just junk and impotent sucker bait.
And remember, humans can always do better no matter the race. No one should accept the status quo. Growth should be the ultimate goal. Today’s world sucks and can be made a lot better, but only through belief in SELF as a definite power to make changes, not through
Here’s something that will explain MY VIEW very well – go to “LOVE OF TRUTH” here on You Tube ( a lecture by the venerable Manly P. Hall ) and watch it entirely. What he says is what I personally BELIEVE.
Now, if you obtain a BLANK Deck of Tarot Cards and draw images on them that mean something TO YOU PERSONALLY ( don’t worry about following the Tarot concept of wands, swords, cups, disks, trumps ). Just illustrate images of concepts YOU have. Then use that deck for self-relection –
Regarding the shifting around of the tribes on the continent: The Pawnee and Pawnee Loupes oldest memory places them somewhere in central Mexico, yet when Europeans encountered them, they were in what is now Nebraska. The Comanches came from southern Mexico and were of Aztec stock. Apaches and Kiowa came from northwestern Canada, but were encountered by Europeans much farther south. The Crow came from some tropical jungle but were found in Montana ! No tribe had a stable “homeland”.
They had to stay in one locale because there’s only so much you can transport on the backs of a couple of large dogs. Wars, population growth, territorial expansion in an imperialistic sense, etc., all took place after acquiring the horse, metal implements and advanced weapons, and other technological advances due to interaction with Europeans. “In Crowd” thinking ( us against them ) applied to every tribe in its view of any person not of the tribe regardless of color of skin and race.
@Zaku1234567 Sorry, I don’t follow this comment – can’t pick up what you mean as far as your example of “Native killings” goes. However, I do know from extensive research that natives didn’t really consider any particular area of the continent as their possession. They fought each other over the best hunting spots and shifted around the continent according to their fortunes in war – AFTER acquiring the horse, that is. Before that, they had no choice but to remain more or less stationary.
@GaleZMe The thread came after the tarot reading discussion, especially when youtube threads don’t track chronically very well. It was only after I said I take my native history seriously where we both actually brought it up. As for the Native killings, I’m making a quick example of how both sides have killed which Natives have done for that reason before, not a lot but have done before. Fighting is conflict, we have conflict and I have no desire for conflict.
@GaleZMe Why don’t you read the tribal histories of the Comanche and the Sioux; both of which were tribes that routinely slaughtered other Indians before and after the arrival of Europeans. The Comanche also ran a lucrative slave trade, selling captive Indians of other tribes to Whites from Spain. Torture, brutality, rape, etc. against other Indians was common, and when Whites showed up, the Comanches simply included them on their list of potential victims to target.
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@Zaku1234567 I’m not “Fighting”, I’m “exposing”. Also, read the thread of our exchange and you’ll see the reference to Blood Sacrifice and Rain Gods came AFTER you started up with your defence of “the ancient”.
PS: No Indian every killed a White person just because they were White. You’ve been watching too many movies and reading Dee Brown too much! Indians killed people who weren’t of their TRIBAL GROUP, regardless of race – all considered FAIR GAME in terms of Stone Age value systems.
@Zaku1234567 Aren’t you going to equate the pacification of the American frontier with the “Holocaust”, or at least admit that there’s been “Holocausts” throughout history everywhere, not just during WWII in Germany?
Broken treaties? The Indians routinely broke every treaty they agreed to – primarily because they had no idea of ethics or being bound by your word today if you gave it to someone else last week. In other words, Stone Age reasoning didn’t mesh with 19th Century European ethics.
@GaleZMe To be honest, there are actually three. Comprehending and responding on the situation now instead of in the future or whether how it begun in the past. Simple negotiations are long and boring while fighting are dangerous and tiring. Right now, us fighting makes me quite tired and I have no desire to continue this argument because we are just spinning our wheels right now. I’d be more than happy to end this right now.
@GaleZMe There are many mistakes in this world of which we must be reminded of. Whether it’s through the Holocaust or through early Americans breaking the treaties with Natives on different accounts or the Natives killing many innocent citizens because they merely were white. What you call me has no direct impact me and will only impact you of what I call you if you let it. Perhaps you were the one to bring it up when you brought up rain gods and sacrifice. I simply retaliated to your response.
@Zaku1234567 “Remembering the past is important because it allows avoidance of previous mistakes”? What mistakes? Has the American Indian learned to avoid the “mistake” of tribe vs tribe genocide……..while lamenting about losing a Stone Age culture that contained genocide against other tribes as a keystone?
I’m not insulting you either. I am pointing out the way you look at things based on your own comments. This video is about TAROT, and you brought up Indian culture being “destroyed”.
@Zaku1234567 Look, there are two ways of approaching life these days. One is to do it by looking backward as if there’s something in the past that was really to be missed. The other is to look forward and to put the past in a museum where ti belongs. That’s it. This has nothing to do with needing to win. You called me a child, an idiot, and you directly accused the race I belong to of doing certain things. Well, I’m calling you on all of it. Don’t blame me because you brought it all up.