Updated 5/14/10: Thanks to Darren Taylor, we now have translations! I deleted parts 3-6 because they were confusing people as I had shown them out of order to emphasize the parts that showed the debunking. I forgot the part that showed how he moved the bowl of water with magnets was in the third video. Sorry. The magician was shown explaining an elaborate pulley system and magnets was being used. All you need to know is when the reporter controlled the conditions, and provided her own bowl of water without magnets embedded in the plastic, he failed to move it! /end of update. This is the final part of the CCTV show exposing a fraud and catching him in the act of cheating. Please look at the other 5 parts! Edited down to fit on YouTube. Some things about part 2: a) everything before 1:48 you can ignore. b) 1:54 she places the brick towards the middle of the table, he retrieves the brick and places it in the same spot he does in the demonstration. WHY? c) at 2:56 the guy in the magician explains how something underneath pokes the bricks over, then at 3:05 you can see him feel with his finger for the indent under the cloth and places the brick over the indent. d)3:41 -3:49 you can see close ups of something causing the table cloth up because something pushes it from beneath. e)4:08 she feels that there’s an indent herself, and points it out to him. She shows a second one. f)the second indent is where he puts his jar. At 5:00 a slow motion of the jar shattering shows …
During my travels in India, I was taught by one of the great masters Ravi DeShanka, how to get myself into a state of mind to perform this.. As I understand there are only 7 other westerners who know how to do this. Ravi is known for levitating 80ft high anytime, anywhere. Thank you Ravi for taking me in as your student. lol.. P-Cat My Facebook Profile.. www.facebook.com
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@leereturn2006 huh?
@lennyhipp baby thought.
@ghostdog7575 1 week has passed… either:
1) you don’t have access to the supplied articles
2) you’re a slow reader
3) you’re just busy
4) you agree that acupuncture is a sham
which is it? because i have many more when those are finished. what scientific evidence do you have that supports the efficacy of acupuncture in treating anything other than pain?
“you need to find your self before you have some statement in this subject”
NONSENSE. no need to find myself or anyone else… need common sense, an open mind, and an ability to think critically, which i do have. the box i live in is called reality my friend. that which exists outside it is fantasy.
@leereturn2006 ” you think that people can test any thing if they want to? technically yes”
NO! the answer is “technically NO!” and i never stated such a thing… but what we CAN DO, is design a test where the results are self-evident. Either he can replicate these tricks under controlled conditions and the possibility of bias is eliminated… or he can’t. it’s really that simple. Test HIM properly, not his supposed abilities.
@lennyhipp oh so you look at life scientific way, let me tell you well you are right so are you happy now. you think that people can test any thing if they want to? technically yes, but you need to find your self before you have some statement in this subject, when you can find your self you will see, if you dont ever do it then keep living in the box that you think the world is.
@leereturn2006 “they? are hiding the true power by saying it is fake but the real power is still real”
yeah. Ahahhhahahhahahahahhahaa! that’s a good one! you’re funny.
“belive me”
no. don’t believe you. you’ve no evidence to back your claim it’s real. everybody who’s been properly tested has failed miserably. willful ignorance is no way to go through life son
they are hiding the true power by saying it is fake but the real power is still real. belive me
go look for the self-published book “Grandmasters Text of the Shaolin Ch’an” in it, they explain how ALL these are skillfully performed tricks. i believe the paperback is still in print. Also, just because the dude you might have seen on camera wore orange robes, he most likely wasn’t shaolin… who DONT perform for the public.
@imaginator “a real qigong master, he? doesn’t need cloth on a table”
there’s no evidence for such a thing as a “real” qigong master
“A real master can heat up a wet towel or a bowl of water with his qi”
There’s no evidence to support this either. the Ripley’s show you watch did NOT properly test him and they are EASILY replicated carney tricks
“Or a shaolin monk breaking bricks and stones”
got NOTHING to do with qi/chi and EVERYTHING to do with training and PHYSICS!
this is only done for show, like a magic show presentation. But if you see a real qigong master, he doesn’t need cloth on a table. A real master can heat up a wet towel or a bowl of water with his qi. Or a shaolin monk breaking bricks and stones with his head or palm.
3. Clin Med 2006;6:381–6
Systematic review of systematic reviews of acupuncture published 1996–2005
4. Lancet. 1995 Jun 17;345(8964):1576.
Adverse effects of acupuncture
…and many more. There’s over 50 entries on randiDOTorg, and 149 over at quackwatchDOTcom, and tinyurlDOTcom/acupuncturesham, and many more articles on the right
“Pure speculation!”
ridiculous. the effects are well-known and documented, see watch?v=MzjoKhBklYg or some examples
@ghostdog7575 whatstheharmDOTnet lists 11 victims of acupuncture treatment and of course is nowhere near the only ones.
1. BMJ 2009;338:a3115
Acupuncture treatment for pain: systematic review of randomised clinical trials with acupuncture, placebo acupuncture, and no acupuncture groups
2. Arch Intern Med. 2009;169(9):858-866
A Randomized Trial Comparing Acupuncture, Simulated Acupuncture, and Usual Care for Chronic Low Back Pain
@ghostdog7575 “a serious study published on a peer review journal would find some evidence of an healing”
PLEASE give reference to one that does this, i’d LOVE to read it
“I guess it would be very hard to reproduce or falsify suggestion”\
remove the chance of bias. either they can reproduce the effects, or they cannot. tests can EASILY be designed so that the results are self-evident!
@lennyhipp please, let me know the “studies you’ve seen”. I’m a scholar too. And frankly, even if I don’t believe in 99.99999% of what is called “paranormal”, I doubt a serious study published on a peer review journal would find some evidence of an healing technique and dismiss it as “due to suggestion” since the concept of “suggestion” is so vague, and I guess it would be very hard to reproduce or falsify suggestion… The “power of suggestion” is in noway a science fact! Pure speculation!
“there are many ways to try things…”
you’re still contradicting yourself
“there are ways? to test things with out hurting your self”
tests can EASILY be designed so that the results are self-evident. remove chance of bias, and either he can do what he claims or not. it’s simple
“and seeing is almost always believing”
then you lack critical thinking skills. you should believe nothing what you hear and only half of what you see. a skilled conjurer can fool even the smartest
@lennyhipp there are many ways to try things with out burning your hand, to test if somethings hot, drop a drip of water, to test if a gun is loaded, perhaps check the ammo or even fire it. there are ways to test things with out hurting your self and seeing is almost always believing.
“besides that for most of the things you have to try it before you judge it”
bullshit. you (and me) are subject to confirmation bias. we’re easily swayed by self-delusion. most things, you DONT have to try yourself! i can show you a dozen videos of what happens (dangerous) when you allow yourself to think you have these powers because you’re convinced things happen, and others agree
“If someone tells you to point a gun to your head..”
directly contradicting your previous statement, aren’t you?!
“Sorry i was referring to organs not limbs”
ok. agreed, but non sequitur to our conversation
“Galileo was correct but people deemed him wrong”
the CHURCH deemed him a heretic because what he said contradicted the bible!
“it was something like 2AM when i wrote my post”
fair enough, i’ve been there too
“Despite whatever you may say there is never 100% evidence”
show me where i said it did!
Sorry i was referring to organs not limbs, and i was stating Galileo was correct but people deemed him wrong. secondly it’s ignorance that continues to make us think that something may not work, it was something like 2AM when i wrote my post. Despite whatever you may say there is never 100% evidence, and besides that for most of the things you have to try it before you judge it. If someone tells you to point a gun to your head and promises you there’s no ammo do you still do it?
10) cont’d. Although it’s a near certainty there IS other life in the universe given the sheer uncountable number of stars, there is ZERO evidence ANY alien life has EVER visited earth. The chances of alien life finding us is close to nil. WHERE is this evidence you speak of?
11) “Another one is? Galileo”
IDIOT. Galileo was correct, it was the catholic church that forced him to recant his heliocentric model of the solar system. he was the father of modern science because of this
7) “convinced that science has figured it all out”
retard, if science had it all figured out, there would be no need for science!
8) “people said it’s impossible to fly, look now?”
irrelevant. we aren’t as ignorant as we were 200 years ago
9) “people said it’s impossible to regrow limbs, tada?”
hate to burst your bubble, it IS impossible to regrow limbs currently
10) “People also said aliens didn’t exist”
Nobody i know said they didn’t exist, it’s near mathematically certainty they DO!
4) PLEASE provide ANY peer-reviewed paper in a credible medical journal that touts the efficacy of healing touch, because the studies i’ve seen has also linked it to the power of suggestion
5)”please you can have all 3 of those done to you any time”
i wouldn’t let one of these fraud assholes within 50 ft of me. you’re also making an argumentum ad popularum logical fallacy.
6) “you just have such a dwelled mind” <-this doesn't even make sense in English
2)
see v=pp5eiHUdwb4
Also, other studies have shown that the person giving the treatment didn’t have to know what they were doing, and didn’t insert the needles into the “proper” places for it to be effective. So much for meridiens, huh? Time after time, it’s been found to be the power of suggestion at work. see also whatstheharmDOTnet for the serious results of following sham treatments of all kinds
3) there is ZERO evidence candling works and i challenge you to provide evidence i’m wrong
@monckey100 = sad little man out of touch with reality. Let me explain a few things to you:
1) “explain how acupuncture,candling and the healing touch is pseudo nonense”
the onus of evidence is on YOU (or the person making the claim that they are effective.) in every large clinical trial, acupuncture has been shown to be no more effective than placebo… in fact, when TOOTHPICKS were used instead of needles, the toothpicks that didn’t even penetrate the skin were MORE EFFECTIVE than needles